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Really really confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I really did not explain ... my negative In respond to spitfirebill: I included that point because when I needed to discover a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I had to go via each in every junkyard in South Jacket to discover one that wasn't sludged up truly terribly.
Bernie: Which is a far better van, while we're mosting likely to discuss a few problems of these vans, however I I'm plainly not mosting likely to come out and claim one is much better than the other. If that's what you're looking for, you'll have to wait. Mark: So what are several of the differences in between these two brands? Bernie: Well, they're basically the very same car.
Mark: So, well, allow's begin with engines then. Allow's chat concerning engine and actually just to specify that the model years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you know, I indicate, these vans have actually been around for a long time.
And, you understand, for a variation of a Chevy van has actually been around considering that, you recognize, around that time as well. Because 2000, I indicate, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s.
There's a whole lot of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 stimulate plugs with blow to these engines, because they really did not have adequate threading in the spark plug, which triggered problems.
If you're getting anything from possibly 08 and more recent, you're not going to have that kind of stimulate plug problems. Various other areas though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will certainly leak, they'll develop coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold usually you need to replace the whole thing.
And there's some problems, the Ford engine I need to state in their favour, due to the fact that I'm discussing issues, it's a much more sophisticated engine. Expenses web cam, so you're obtaining more power and performance out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is a simpler design with push poles.
They're just really respectable, resilient, solid engines. You know, being a van, certainly, you know, doing any type of service on them is much more difficult since you have actually got to get rid of that cover and enter maintenance in weird ways. However points like spark plugs last a horrible lengthy time, so they do not need to be replaced very often.
Mark: Can you acquire these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have had diesels in them for a long time, like way back prior to the 2000 design year.
So, you understand, that's still offered. I would certainly not recommend a diesel unless you're carrying incredibly heavy loads. Diesels require to be worked. That's actually the bottom line with a diesel. If you're a say, I don't know, I'm simply going to say a plumber and you have actually obtained like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're towing a trailer behind it, that would be a truly good use of having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it feels like the diesels are, they seem to have less issues in vans than they do in the trucks. Possibly since they aren't worked so hard, however when things occur, they're truly expensive to repair. We have actually got a lot of videos and details concerning diesels, especially the Fords.
You actually need to assume twice regarding getting a diesel in a van. And I will say, Chevy is quite a lot restricted to V8 engines, yet Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is an impressive gas wolfing engine.
If you're, and once more, we're simply speaking concerning kind of a right, regular freight van below. Look at your purpose, your use, just how much weight you're hauling and that'll help you make the decision.
One thing that we haven't discussed right here is what sort of van. These vans are, and it relies on what model, they're offered ever before from half heap to one lot chassis and in fact a few of the exploded view vans are in fact a lot more long lasting, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for state the Fords.
Usually the drive trains, you recognize, I find them to be pretty much equal. Mark: So allow's discuss steering and suspension. Exactly how do they contrast? Bernie: You recognize, I'm mosting likely to offer the edge to Ford on this one. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little less complex.
There's less guiding affiliation associated with a Chevy. There are much less parts to use out. They do a ball joints that break. Do Chevy's, however it seems, and the Chevy's most likely last a little bit longer than the Fords, yet the, you know, the guiding link is a lot less difficult, so there's less parts and less products to use out.
The trip in a Ford is possibly a bit a lot more truck like however I do not understand if you 'd in fact ever before truly observed a distinction in between both. It feels like their parts are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What about brakes? Bernie: Brakes are virtually the exact same, but I will certainly say that it feels like with Fords, the way they build their brake calipers, that they often tend to require to be replaced virtually every single time you do a brake task.
Somehow, they appear to last for one brake work. And after that a great deal of times we take the brakes off and say, Oh, the dirt boots torn, therefore the caliper requires to be replaced. I believe on a Ford and you can anticipate to spend a little bit more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to digress back before the 2000 model years, there were some Chevy vans that had truly negative doors. I imply, the sliding doors were crap, you know, really severely constructed. In fact, I would certainly state that if you are even checking out something older, it seems like Chevy and GMC vans really and their trucks generally really took a jump forward in quality around the 2000 design year, since there was a great deal of stuff where the brakes for example would not last really long at all.
Yet if we're considering the 2000 more recent, I imply, I would certainly say they're both probably basically equivalent in high quality, fit and coating, you know, a few of the traveler vans, naturally we'll have nicer visits than the cargo vans. I can not state that one of them stands out to me a little even more than the other.
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